Recently, while having a conversation about metacognition with Matt Hampton, founder of Envoy Design, we got to talking about the many kinds of lenses that inform our world views. In addition to his usual work (which isn’t really that usual), Matt is co-host of Irreverent Health, a podcast he co-created with Tom Ingegno, a doctor of acupuncture and Chinese medicine. They define their irreverence as “two guys talking about funky health stuff”, and their understanding of health as “a few thousand hours of reading stuff our doctors didn’t tell us about but should have.”
So, in our long and winding conversation, Matt asked me whether I thought divorce resulted in any usual health consequences. I told him that as someone who has a center court view of divorce, I’ve observed a multitude of health consequences for people, some of which include a lack of sleeping, eating, and socializing, depression, anxiety, over-eating, and drug and alcohol use. I’ve also observed improvements in healthy behaviors like increased energy, vibrancy, engagement, socializing, physical fitness, re-engagement with family, friends, work, hobbies, and spirituality.
Toward the end of our conversation Matt asked me if I’d be a guest on their podcast. I was intrigued and accepted his offer.
- Unsurprisingly, our conversation was somewhat irreverent.
Irreverent, I hope, in the best of ways, by questioning norms and traditions while also respecting and understanding their origins. By engendering a conversation about conventions, while suggesting fresh perspectives that can co-exist with and even improve upon a legal process, and — ultimately — a family’s restructuring.
Matt and Tom led with their observations of systemic problems. They asked probing questions about over-arching problems, and together, we boldly suggested how we can harness better solutions.
- They start with the “Why” behind the “What;” as in “Why did I create the Consilium Process?”
- What did I think was broken about the divorce process? and
- What led to the audacious idea that Judge Field and I could step outside the traditional framework to build a new paradigm, creating the Bold Answer to What’s Next in Family Law?
To learn more, please enjoy our Irreverent Health podcast.
